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i carried the law, and the nra actually doesn't oppose it. i think we have -- this is the best chance of getting something done, and i think you're going to find much broader support than we've ever imagined. >> it's interesting, senator cruz. the president said to those americans who live in states like your own where there are very strong gun rights representatives, you're the ones who have to rise up and pressure those senators and congressmen to demand an assault weapons ban, a ban on magazines. and i wonder if the national rifle association has helped his cause with an ad that was released this week that talked about armed security guards, the president skeptical those could work, did not rule it out. but talking about the president's children and that issue of security. watch a portion of that ad. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools? >> over the line? >> look, i'm going to let people to dec
i carried the law, and the nra actually doesn't oppose it. i think we have -- this is the best chance of getting something done, and i think you're going to find much broader support than we've ever imagined. >> it's interesting, senator cruz. the president said to those americans who live in states like your own where there are very strong gun rights representatives, you're the ones who have to rise up and pressure those senators and congressmen to demand an assault weapons ban, a ban on...
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i did not think the nra ad was a smart move. i thought that the substantive case then made was virtually indisputable. it is the case that there is a double standard. we can debate whether the president deserves to have a double standard, particularly with respect to the secret service. but having said that, the ad in my view may president obama a sympathetic figure in the one way that they did not want to make a sympathetic. lou: you can argue that they could have done a better -- you can argue lots of things, but the fact that they point out very specifically that there is a double standard. the nra was not saying that he did not deserve nor his children deserve that extra protection. we all know that they do. the point is, so does every american and they're children. every one of those young lives is precious to all of us. thank you for being with us. thank you. up next, it has been one year since the president's jobs council hazmat. it has been a year since the president's jobs council hazmat. 23 million folks still without
i did not think the nra ad was a smart move. i thought that the substantive case then made was virtually indisputable. it is the case that there is a double standard. we can debate whether the president deserves to have a double standard, particularly with respect to the secret service. but having said that, the ad in my view may president obama a sympathetic figure in the one way that they did not want to make a sympathetic. lou: you can argue that they could have done a better -- you can...
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what the nra did was odious. i think the president is on the high ground, but he will not get real gun-control done. >> the 23 executive actions were fairly trivial, nothing major about it. i think it will not have any effect. it was the appearance of motion. the three big items on the table for the congress, assault weapons ban, limit on the size of the magazine clip, and universal background checks -- the last one has very strong public opinion behind it. that is likely to pass, the other two are not. >> charles is right. it is in the 80%-plus range approval rating for the idea of universal backrub checks. but i am still not convinced it will pass. because of the influence of the gun lobby and whether we have restricted so that we have so many safe seats. you can tell something about the tenor of this debate by the fact that you saw the former attorney general, members of congress -- one member of congress wanted to put out an article of impeachment over the president over his executive orders, even before they
what the nra did was odious. i think the president is on the high ground, but he will not get real gun-control done. >> the 23 executive actions were fairly trivial, nothing major about it. i think it will not have any effect. it was the appearance of motion. the three big items on the table for the congress, assault weapons ban, limit on the size of the magazine clip, and universal background checks -- the last one has very strong public opinion behind it. that is likely to pass, the...
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but senator schumer, just as i challenged wayne lapierre of the nra very hard when this came up, i challenge you as well with a question of, is this really going to make a difference? and rich lawry wrote something that caught my attention in "the national review." no one can write a law against mothers owning guns that one day might be turned against them by deranged sons who then commit horrific acts of murder-suicide. shooting rampages are hard to prevent because they are so often committed by young men with no criminal records who want to die. these are adult facts that don't intrude on the childish world of white house policy making. he notes adam lanza in newtown, his own mother of course passed a background check. >> here's the bottom line. these laws are not perfect. and you'll always find certain exceptions. but they make a huge difference. every major person who has studied the brady law, which is the most significant gun safety law we've passed in the last 20 years has said it has reduced gun violence dramatically. law enforcement is totally for the brady law. and the idea that fe
but senator schumer, just as i challenged wayne lapierre of the nra very hard when this came up, i challenge you as well with a question of, is this really going to make a difference? and rich lawry wrote something that caught my attention in "the national review." no one can write a law against mothers owning guns that one day might be turned against them by deranged sons who then commit horrific acts of murder-suicide. shooting rampages are hard to prevent because they are so often...
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the nra is for background checks. the nra will say they are for something and ruin it by all these amendments as they did with the first assault weapon ban and said we are not going to do this because it doesn't work. after they foil it. you think there would be a respite. newtown did make a difference. the financeurs that you know and the 500 points that mika brings up why is not the business community and because you are not one, you are a former treasurer, 'they not more proobama? democrats help more than republicans. >> let's put up for wall street. you think that wall street would love president obama because it's been a heck of a ride for them. >> every time i see that i have that exact thing. >> i have the numbers. >> i think it's the largest increase of any president. that's almost double since he became president. some of the rhetoric and the substance that happened over the last four years, business is not in his corner. it changed a lot when the president and the stupid party decided they wanted to go near
the nra is for background checks. the nra will say they are for something and ruin it by all these amendments as they did with the first assault weapon ban and said we are not going to do this because it doesn't work. after they foil it. you think there would be a respite. newtown did make a difference. the financeurs that you know and the 500 points that mika brings up why is not the business community and because you are not one, you are a former treasurer, 'they not more proobama? democrats...
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in our poll the nra, the hated nra, which seems to make very little effort to promote its public -- have a public relations campaign, they've been more forceful than charming, in much of what the nra has done, 56% to the president's 51%. gun owners who fear their guns will be taken away, are legion and the thing the democrats have to remember is these are single-issue voters. so they may even -- even when they are a minority are dangerous and, they may like you on all kinds of things but if you are wrong with them -- >> politically dangerous, you want to point out. >> yes, i don't mean physically dangerous, obviously. so i think that this -- and i think it may be a mistake for the president to have elevated the issue so high and reached for so much. he may get something but it will not be all he wanted and, it will remains to be seen, whether he'll really get anything. >> chris: liz? >> i agree with one point, for the president it is a genuine, heartfelt issue that he is pushing that i think wouldn't have come up if newtown wouldn't have happened, talking about immigration reform, is the
in our poll the nra, the hated nra, which seems to make very little effort to promote its public -- have a public relations campaign, they've been more forceful than charming, in much of what the nra has done, 56% to the president's 51%. gun owners who fear their guns will be taken away, are legion and the thing the democrats have to remember is these are single-issue voters. so they may even -- even when they are a minority are dangerous and, they may like you on all kinds of things but if you...
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the truth is -- >> nra, stop killing our children. the nra is killing our children. [inaudible] end the violence. stop the killing. >> describe what this first interruption was, then we will go to your clip. >> you hear a silence that seemed like it when on for ever. my colleague was standing there with a banner that said "nra killing our kids." i think there were so shocked we had gotten into the press conference because there's such high-security, that they did not know what to do. that left him standing right in front of wayne lapierre for quite a long time rita >> you can only see lapierre's head because he was holding up a sign. let's go to the clip of you as they took him out of the room, this is what happened next he attempted to continue. >> sit down. >> the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. >> the nra will the-- >> explain what happened as you're holding up a sign that said "the nra has blood on its hands." >> i got up with that sign right in front and had a chance a little longer than the club to be talking in the
the truth is -- >> nra, stop killing our children. the nra is killing our children. [inaudible] end the violence. stop the killing. >> describe what this first interruption was, then we will go to your clip. >> you hear a silence that seemed like it when on for ever. my colleague was standing there with a banner that said "nra killing our kids." i think there were so shocked we had gotten into the press conference because there's such high-security, that they did not...
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that's an enormous step forward and i don't think the nra can defeat that. i think there's such a consensus among the american people for that. 65% of americans think we should limit the size of the magazines to a reasonable number of rounds so that we don't have situation where is people can open fire on a crowd and not have to reload. so they can't be subdued. so there are measures that have enormous support among the public. i think there's an opportunity now to do something that didn't exist before but i am mindful of the fact that, you know, the nra may speak in some ways for a more of a fringe when it comes to this notion of people being armed in case, you know, an overweaning government comes to get them and so on. you hear some of that. but i think the vast majority of gun owners understand that there are reasonable steps we need to take. >> i agree with you. well, it will be a big day tomorrow. it's been a big day today. thank you for joining me. very rare appearance. a great insight in to what president obama has achieved and may achieve. thank you
that's an enormous step forward and i don't think the nra can defeat that. i think there's such a consensus among the american people for that. 65% of americans think we should limit the size of the magazines to a reasonable number of rounds so that we don't have situation where is people can open fire on a crowd and not have to reload. so they can't be subdued. so there are measures that have enormous support among the public. i think there's an opportunity now to do something that didn't...
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supporter, who's had the nra's support. this is going to be a very tough challenge for him to take on. and he's already sort of making noise that at this point, wait a minute, we're going to have to look at all these proposals. some of them like the checks, background check, really have much more sort of universal support. other things like the assault weapons ban, much tougher to get through. >> i mean, this is harry reid's biggest nightmare having the senate go first on assault weapons ban. this is not something he wants to bring up. i don't think he's, you know, my guess is there are a number of moderate democrats who come from states that are pro-gun states and they, i mean, we know that the last time that washington passed an assault weapons ban, that hurt democrats on the ballot the next time. and this is not a battle everyone in the democratic leadership wants. >> let's bring us now to the local level. i want to bring scott back into this, because i know that you've also talked to our local mayors, oakland mayor gene
supporter, who's had the nra's support. this is going to be a very tough challenge for him to take on. and he's already sort of making noise that at this point, wait a minute, we're going to have to look at all these proposals. some of them like the checks, background check, really have much more sort of universal support. other things like the assault weapons ban, much tougher to get through. >> i mean, this is harry reid's biggest nightmare having the senate go first on assault weapons...
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well, if the nra has 4 million members, this organization will have many more than 10 million members organizing out there, showing support in these congressional districts across the country and it's very important in passing some of this legislation. >> that's an interesting test. let's see if you can transfer that organization into something that helps you in the second term. >> ben, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> now, when you go to the balls, what do you wear? do you wear a tux? >> you know, i haven't been to a ball. i went to the mtv ball when bill clinton was elected president. >> that must have been a fun one. >> it was a hoot. it was a fun time. mike mccory was working with a group that was organizing that and got me a ticket and i wore a tux. >> people dress up for this. >> still fits. >> and that is something to really be proud of. good for you. obviously this is really not supposed to be at all about politics in the sense it's supposed to be a nonpartisan event but is really is about parties here in washington. we'll take you to two parties. they're already s
well, if the nra has 4 million members, this organization will have many more than 10 million members organizing out there, showing support in these congressional districts across the country and it's very important in passing some of this legislation. >> that's an interesting test. let's see if you can transfer that organization into something that helps you in the second term. >> ben, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> now, when you go to the balls, what do...
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quote, direct, the nra has higher approval ratings than congress or hollywood. senator schumer should really try to keep up with the news. all right, a little sarcasm there. speaking of hollywood, we've been talking about the new movies being promoted during the football play-offs yesterday. all of them action movies, guns all over the place, we will talk to a gun control advocate about this later this hour. one more thing on guns, remember the suburban new york city newspaper that published an interactive gun permit map? it's taken that map down, not due to two recent robberies in their area, apparently, but three days after the state enacted a gun control law that included privacy provisions for permit holders. that's our wrap on guns this monday morning. time we brought you something completely different. a mob assassination in russia. we're going talk about it because when the top mobster in all of russia is executed in broad daylight by the way it is a big money story. a professor at nyu is here. he is an expert on the russian mob. professor, welcome to the
quote, direct, the nra has higher approval ratings than congress or hollywood. senator schumer should really try to keep up with the news. all right, a little sarcasm there. speaking of hollywood, we've been talking about the new movies being promoted during the football play-offs yesterday. all of them action movies, guns all over the place, we will talk to a gun control advocate about this later this hour. one more thing on guns, remember the suburban new york city newspaper that published an...
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. >> what i find so baffling is the apparent power that the nra wield, for example, in the political system in america. compared to the amount of money they put in and the amount of membership they have, i don't really understand why they have such power or why so many politicians at senior level are so frightened of them. >> jim comes from state where guns are a huge issue. the truth is it's been part of the american culture and tradition for a long time particularly in rural areas. hunting, gun ownership, parents passing the tradition of hunting down to children. that's been part of our culture. on the other hand, we have in some of our communities real problems with violence. in chicago we've had a terrible time with youth violence and gun violence. we have to find a way to reconcile those things. one thing that gives me hope is i see 90%, 85, 90% of americans say we should have universal background checks for anybody that buys a gun. that will be an enormous step forward. i think there's such a consensus among the american people for that. 65% of americans think we ought to limit
. >> what i find so baffling is the apparent power that the nra wield, for example, in the political system in america. compared to the amount of money they put in and the amount of membership they have, i don't really understand why they have such power or why so many politicians at senior level are so frightened of them. >> jim comes from state where guns are a huge issue. the truth is it's been part of the american culture and tradition for a long time particularly in rural...
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she was taken out by security as one of the heads of the nra spoke. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the piece ball, which was held at the mead center for american theater, was thought affiliated with any party. thousands came out. the number of official balls celebrating open as an operation is down from 10 in 2009 to just two this year. this time obama agreed to except unlimited corporate funding. donors have been offered a number of sponsorship options including the top tier of $1 million for institutions, $250,000 for individuals. in contrast, corporate lobbyists and political action committee donors were banned in 2009. individual contributions were capped at $50,000. several of the nation's best powerful corporate lobbying forces are bankrolling this year's festivities including at&t, microsoft, southern co. which have collectively spent almost $160 million on lobbying since obama first took office. today's ceremony falls on the third anniversary of one of the supreme court citizens united decisions, allowing unlimi
she was taken out by security as one of the heads of the nra spoke. this is "democracy now!," democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the piece ball, which was held at the mead center for american theater, was thought affiliated with any party. thousands came out. the number of official balls celebrating open as an operation is down from 10 in 2009 to just two this year. this time obama agreed to except unlimited corporate funding. donors have been offered a...
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the protest in nevada coincide with closed-door meetings with nra lobbyist and state lawmakers. they showed up to support the right to bear and keep arms. this comes as others have protested the sale of semiautomatic rifles following a year of deadly mass shootings. >> they have the right to say whatever they would like unfirst amendment and i respect that. he don't have an issue of getting into a conversation with somebody but if they will argue with me don't argue with idiots. >> both side of the gun issue are keying a close eye on what law makers are going to decide to do about the legal sale of certain guns. >>> another gun control group is now happening in new york city. the million moms march will take place on the brooklyn bridge and end at city hall. there's march for dth dc chapter of 1 million moms. they are calling on law makers to take action in gun control legislation. >>> new video out of bulgaria. a man rushes on a stage during a national conference in bulgaria and points a gun at the leader of the country's ethnic turkic party he eud a gas pistol used for target
the protest in nevada coincide with closed-door meetings with nra lobbyist and state lawmakers. they showed up to support the right to bear and keep arms. this comes as others have protested the sale of semiautomatic rifles following a year of deadly mass shootings. >> they have the right to say whatever they would like unfirst amendment and i respect that. he don't have an issue of getting into a conversation with somebody but if they will argue with me don't argue with idiots. >>...
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and some in the pro gun movement and the nra in many instances doesn't believe in any limitation at all. that is not unconstitutional. that just is dumb. >> so, jim, sounds like the president is going to go bold on gun control wlachlt can you get through congress? >> i don't think he can get anything. there is a slight chance. >> any changes in the law at all? >> no. i think there is a slight chance can you do something on background checks. can you hardly find sang will republican, remember republicans control the house, that have any interest in doing anything on gun control. we talked to a bunch -- there's only a few moderate republicans left. the moderate republicans in suburban districts, even those in pennsylvania in the northeast corner of the country, they said by 9-1 they're hearing from the constituents not to do anything on gun control. they say they're not hearing anything of the stuff that media is talking about and they have no interest in bringing a bill to the floor. i don't know harry reid who is in nevada, doinlt know that i d wants to bring a bill to the floor. he has
and some in the pro gun movement and the nra in many instances doesn't believe in any limitation at all. that is not unconstitutional. that just is dumb. >> so, jim, sounds like the president is going to go bold on gun control wlachlt can you get through congress? >> i don't think he can get anything. there is a slight chance. >> any changes in the law at all? >> no. i think there is a slight chance can you do something on background checks. can you hardly find sang will...
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. >> all of the money karl rove spent or the nra spent or the koch brothers spent, the nra spent that the koch brothers, i wrote a book about them. they didn't win that many: so maybe all of that money didn't have as [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? cap >> bill: the senior coordinator for that project. what do you say to a liberal like me, who is very nervous about amending the constitution because if pandora's box, once you open it up. >> slippery slope >> bill: i have felt that. so that means you have to have a constitutional convention? >> they are two separate approaches to the constitution. the convention has actually never been tried since the constitution was written. it was written via convention and the fear, of course of that is once the convention is formed they will go in either direction they want >> bill: exactly. >> what our f
. >> all of the money karl rove spent or the nra spent or the koch brothers spent, the nra spent that the koch brothers, i wrote a book about them. they didn't win that many: so maybe all of that money didn't have as [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good...
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you are absolutely right that nra members are not necessarily in sync with the impression that nothing could happen on guns. about a year ago, republican pollster frank luntz conducted a poll of nra members and found overwhelming support for common sense regulations like universal background checks. 40% of guns are sold at gun shows or through the internet. there is an overwhelming number of nra members, gun owners, and just the general public who support these provisions. as well, the high capacity magazines to over 60% of americans, including gun owners, support limiting those high capacity magazines. it is a question of just some lore that has built up since 1994, when, after bill clinton got the assault weapons ban through, he lost his majority in the house, and the democrats have been essentially scared of the issue since then. but i think, you know, as part of this new strategy of winning public pressure to bear things done, it is possible that if the democrats and some moderate republicans continue to highlight these numbers, many americans, including gun owners, support these t
you are absolutely right that nra members are not necessarily in sync with the impression that nothing could happen on guns. about a year ago, republican pollster frank luntz conducted a poll of nra members and found overwhelming support for common sense regulations like universal background checks. 40% of guns are sold at gun shows or through the internet. there is an overwhelming number of nra members, gun owners, and just the general public who support these provisions. as well, the high...
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the and nra proposed it and the president's plan seems more like armed police officers, resource officers, but you say if we had teachers who were trained in schools and were armed, they could prevent the kind of shootings, or at least maybe stop them before they get out of hand, like what happened at sandy hook. but that scares people, armed teachers. should they be afraid of that? >> no, and when i say armed teachers, i don't mean mandatory arming all teachers by no means, but most people don't realize that already in the state of utah, there are armed teachers because basically our concealed weapons laws allow the carrying of firearms in schools by, you know, legal people. so, if you have a teacher who has a concealed weapons permit, somebody who's volunteered to go through the process and go through the background checks and they wish to carry a firearm at work, they do so. the gun is concealed. nobody knows the gun is even there until it has to be produced and we've been doing this for several years now, and i have people tell me, well, you know, the teacher is not as trained as a po
the and nra proposed it and the president's plan seems more like armed police officers, resource officers, but you say if we had teachers who were trained in schools and were armed, they could prevent the kind of shootings, or at least maybe stop them before they get out of hand, like what happened at sandy hook. but that scares people, armed teachers. should they be afraid of that? >> no, and when i say armed teachers, i don't mean mandatory arming all teachers by no means, but most...
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the and nra proposed it and the president's plan seems more like armed police officers, resource officers, but you say if we had teachers who were trained in schools and were armed, they could prevent the kind of shootings, or at least maybe stop them before they get out of hand, like what happened at sandy hook. but that scares people, armed teachers. should they be afraid of that? >> no, and when i say armed teachers, i don't mean mandatory arming all teachers by no means, but most people don't realize that already in the state of utah, there are armed teachers because basically our concealed weapons laws allow the carrying of firearms in schools by, you know, legal people. so, if you have a teacher who has a concealed weapons permit, somebody who's volunteered to go through the process and go through the background checks and they wish to carry a firearm at work, they do so. the gun is concealed. nobody knows the gun is even there until it has to be produced and we've been doing this for several years now, and i have people tell me, well, you know, the teacher is not as trained as a po
the and nra proposed it and the president's plan seems more like armed police officers, resource officers, but you say if we had teachers who were trained in schools and were armed, they could prevent the kind of shootings, or at least maybe stop them before they get out of hand, like what happened at sandy hook. but that scares people, armed teachers. should they be afraid of that? >> no, and when i say armed teachers, i don't mean mandatory arming all teachers by no means, but most...
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. >> rose: does britain, does australia have the power of an nra lobby like we do here? >> no, absolutely not. >> rose: is that the critical difference. >> critical difference, but also the gun culture here is completely different. you know, i grew up in a small village in the south of england where nobody had a gun, other than a farmer who would use it for hunting or shooting or people going to a target range. they were just unheard of for people to actually is ray gun at home for self-protection. americans have always believed since gaining independence that you need to have a firearm at home to protect yourself and your family, and the vast majority of americans do that. i have no problem with that. i understand and respect that. i believe that's what the founding fathers fully intend by the second amendment. what i find unfathomable is the reality of what is going on now with these derranged young men-- it always seems to be a pattern of deranged young men who may have been tipped over by video games, hollywood movies -- who knows what the final edge point is. >> ros
. >> rose: does britain, does australia have the power of an nra lobby like we do here? >> no, absolutely not. >> rose: is that the critical difference. >> critical difference, but also the gun culture here is completely different. you know, i grew up in a small village in the south of england where nobody had a gun, other than a farmer who would use it for hunting or shooting or people going to a target range. they were just unheard of for people to actually is ray gun...
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. >> i think you're right because the nra wants it. >> they want it. the president -- >> what do you think of that, reverend? do you want a guy standing there with a pistol or a rifle for 30 years? >> i don't support putting police in schools. i think there's a lot of reasons that you don't but i think that the way that they did it that kept a lot of progressives from screaming is they said, it's the option of the school district and then you've got to go in the school district and organize against it. i think that's the way it was dealt with. but i want to say in terms of the immigration, an aside from that issue, the most emotional moment i saw today other than some of the things the president said was when justice sotomayor stepped up to swear in biden. because i was sitting there and you could feel the whole latino community rise up and everybody stood up clapping. >> biden for president. >> i was able to talk to her afterwards. that was a very emotional and historic moment, the first time in history that we have seen a hispanic swear-in the presid
. >> i think you're right because the nra wants it. >> they want it. the president -- >> what do you think of that, reverend? do you want a guy standing there with a pistol or a rifle for 30 years? >> i don't support putting police in schools. i think there's a lot of reasons that you don't but i think that the way that they did it that kept a lot of progressives from screaming is they said, it's the option of the school district and then you've got to go in the school...
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this is something the president has said should be left to the schools, the nra says should be part of a national plan. it will be interesting given the poll numbers. the entrenched interests in washington not on the president's side. we'll see what he does there. one other thing i want to note. the president talked about how immigrants in this country should be allowed to go to school and then become the leaders of the next generation, not be deported. well, remember, it was his administration, this is the bush administration here, deportations of illegal immigrants, it was the obama administration that angered many latinos, and especially latino interest groups by increasing the number of deportations. the president is hoping now that this actually gives him some credibility as he tries to negotiate an immigration reform package with republicans. and anderson, one of the things we have seen since the election is the republicans know the math. they see the demographics of this country. they realize they have a crisis. they cannot be a viable national party if they keep getting such a
this is something the president has said should be left to the schools, the nra says should be part of a national plan. it will be interesting given the poll numbers. the entrenched interests in washington not on the president's side. we'll see what he does there. one other thing i want to note. the president talked about how immigrants in this country should be allowed to go to school and then become the leaders of the next generation, not be deported. well, remember, it was his...